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  • [-]  markerdmann 3 days ago link
    That's a great point.

    Are there any startups tackling the local news problem?

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    • [-]  brandnewlow 3 days ago link
      There is no local news problem. Local news exists to sell advertising...and there's hundreds and hundreds of companies attacking that space.
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      • [-]  _delirium 3 days ago link
        There is some demand for local news on the part of readers, though, which is what causes these papers to survive (and be able to sell ads). The newspapers aren't really producing the highest-quality output, but they retain some readership, because some number of people want to read about what happened in their 80,000-person town's city council meeting yesterday, what the sirens around 3rd and Main were all about, etc., etc.

        I haven't yet seen a startup tackle that aspect, of producing some kind of local information source that people will want to read. It's at least a demand-side problem, in that a lot of people want that information, and current information providers are producing a fairly low-quality version of it. Whether it's monetizable, I suppose, is another story.

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        • [-]  brandnewlow 3 days ago link
          My anecdotal and experiential evidence says that while there are people who want that information, it's a pretty small number so you can't exactly make money directly from them.

          And the people who look at that info have zero intent to spend money, so advertisers have zero interest in appearing alongside it.

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    • [-]  jballanc 3 days ago link
      AOL is making probably the biggest concerted push at the moment with its Patch platform. It's an interesting idea, but probably still to soon to say how everything will turn out...
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    • [-]  djt 3 days ago link
      There are but it is quite difficult.

      The other thing is that the bigger newspapers made a lot of money through national advertising, sales sections and deceased notices. These things are becoming less relevant. With Craigslist and Facebook etc.

      He's probably hoping that investors dump their whole newspaper portfolio and he can pick up all the profitable smaller papers while selling the bigger ones such as the Tampa one at a short term loss as part of the long term plan.

      He wrote a good article about end of life businesses and how they can be a good investment, but not to reinvest money into them. I'll have a look and see if I can find it. Local newspapers

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    • [-]  parfe 3 days ago link
      http://www.patch.com/ might be what you're asking about. I can't comment on how well they perform.
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  • [-]  markerdmann 3 days ago link
    This page has some interesting commentary on the purchase:

    http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-05-17/why-warren-b...

    "As recently as six years ago, newspaper companies sold for more than 9 times Ebitda (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization). Bank of America Merrill Lynch’s Stephen Weiss writes today that Buffett’s company paid around 4 times Ebitda for the Media General assets."

    I suppose you could say he's buying a very sick golden goose. He may not be able to save the goose, but at 4 times Ebitda he only needs to collect a few last eggs to get his money back. And who knows... maybe the goose can be saved.

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    • [-]  pjin 3 days ago link
      I'm not sure economics is the right angle. This is an (re)election year, and these newspapers are all in "Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Alabama and Florida." Think what you want from that.
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      • [-]  patdennis 3 days ago link
        Eh, that's only two and a half swing states (Actually, NC is probably less than a half swing state). If he was trying to influence the election, it'd be more efficient to fund a super pac. Priorities USA would be the obvious choice.

        Buffett is a hands off manager, and if he started tinkering with editorial policies, word would get around. He's no Murdoch.

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    • [-]  darrhiggs 3 days ago link
      The non-obvious thing is that if 6 years ago Ebitda was '100' and today it is around '10' then Mr. Buffet would have paid 40 rather than 900. Comparing the Ebitda makes you think the cost was 45% of 6 years ago, but if Ebitda has fallen in this period then, as in my example, the price is just 4.5% of 6 years ago.

      If these businesses are able to survive the next few years and get to grips with all the new mediums of publication then Ebitda may well return to the levels of 6 years ago and then Mr. buffet would be sitting very pretty indeed.

      Does anyone have the comparative Ebitda figures?

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      • [-]  lusr 3 days ago link
        That's a good point. Worst case, in 9 months I'm sure we'll see the details in the shareholder's letters (http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/letters.html).
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    • [-]  6ren 3 days ago link
      Value investing: the last few puffs in the cigar butt. http://www.valuebull.com/Cigar+Butts
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    • [-]  patrickk 3 days ago link
      Hopefully (for Buffett), it will turn out better than that famous example where he bought into a business in a declining industry (textiles).

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkshire_Hathaway#History

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  • [-]  markerdmann 3 days ago link
    I expected Virgin, the "hip" airline, to be the exception to this rule, but their site is also terrible. Half the time it throws an error at the end of the checkout process and tells me to call a customer service representative in order to complete my order. I've also seen a lot of tweets about the issue, so apparently their site is just FUBAR.

    Banks seem to be in the same boat. Has the bidding war for programmers at startups and major tech companies made it impossible for these companies to hire anyone good?

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    • [-]  jeffool 3 days ago link
      I actually completely forgot my bank had a shitty website. Thanks to Mint.com's app. (And before I get accused of shilling here, though I've never seen that claim made against someone, I just want to say: they should want to get it right before some third party does.)
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      • [-]  knes 3 days ago link
        I wish mint.com was usable in Europe :(

        /rant

        The bank here in France are HORRIBLE. For example the weekend transaction don't show up on the website, like if they had to input them by hand or something. Fucking terrible.

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        • [-]  GuiA 9 hours ago link
          Société Générale has slightly improved recently (although yes, overall it's still terrible)
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  • [-]  markerdmann 4 days ago link
    The service is great and I'm interested in hearing about the new features, which is why I personally vote up the posts.

    New AWS features often hit the front page as well, so I'm not too worried that there is a Parse conspiracy at play. :-)

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    • [-]  tl 4 days ago link
      Are the new AWS features posted from accounts that are 2 hours old?

      blog.parse.com has an rss feed for those who are interested; I'm personally tired of the spam.

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      • [-]  onetwothreefour 4 days ago link
        Me too.
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        • [-]  darkf 3 days ago link
          Thirded. This should not be on HN.
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  • [-]  markerdmann 4 days ago link
    I have to agree with Ford[1] on this one... Facebook ads offer a terrific ROI (in my experience). I'm very surprised by all of this negative press.

    [1]: http://www.freep.com/article/20120517/NEWS09/205170633/Faceb...

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    • [-]  ryanholiday 4 days ago link
      What do you sell?
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  • [-]  markerdmann 6 days ago link
    Like you said, a deal's a deal. If you maintain a reputation as a reliable and honest person, it'll be much more valuable to you than the equity you could gain by going back on your word. The SV tech scene is a pretty small world, and a good reputation will help you grow your business in unexpected ways.
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    • [-]  disappointedguy 6 days ago link
      I (and my other partner) do value reputation and overall I'm inclined to roll with this.

      The only counterpoint is that the departing co-founder really didn't live up to his end of the bargain. Work was low output and quality and this isn't in retrospect. It was like the fellow started crumbling almost from day one & then, the obvious inadequacy of his efforts just sort of piled back on in feedback loop.

      So while I feel sorry for the fellow, honestly I do, I also don't really in any way feel that he lived up to any spirit of his commitment to us and his non-performance has hurt us in material ways.

      It sort of feels like a choice of either being a jerk or a patsy.

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  • [-]  markerdmann 8 days ago link
    Isn't the conversion rate what you're interested in? This experiment will definitely tell you whether one link has a higher conversion rate.
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  • [-]  markerdmann 9 days ago link
    "Herz" is the German word for heart. Do you mean that "hart" sounds like the English word "heart"?
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    • [-]  jacquesm 9 days ago link
      Yes, it looked like a play on words. In dutch (halfway between English and German) it literally means heart.
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  • [-]  markerdmann 21 days ago link
    A word of warning for anyone considering funding a software project through KickStarter: they may reject it.

    I recently spotted this blog post written by a team trying to fund the development of an iPhone app:

    http://famnerd.com/2012/02/update-famnerd-rejected-by-kickst...

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  • [-]  markerdmann 21 days ago link
    Neat project. I built something similar a few weeks ago with Alfred Chan and Michael Grosser that calculates the "gitscore" for startups on AngelList. If you'd like to check it out, the URL is:

    http://startup-score.com/

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